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Triple lock debate reignites as Willetts calls for reform and Webb defends state pension
Former pensions minister Lord David Willetts has renewed calls to scrap the State Pension triple lock, claiming it has boosted pensioner incomes by £900 while family benefits fell by £1,400. His intervention was challenged by Sir Steve Webb, who defended the policy as an affordable choice. The debate highlights growing pressure on the UK's welfare budget.
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The future of the State Pension triple lock has returned to the spotlight after former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts argued that the policy has shifted welfare spending towards pensioners at the expense of families with children. Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today Debate, Lord Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, said pensioners have gained around £900 above inflation since the guarantee was introduced in 2010, while benefits for households with children have fallen by about £1,400 in real terms.
His intervention was challenged by Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP. Sir Steve defended the triple lock, rejecting the idea that the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions. He said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries. "That's a choice," he said. "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
Sir Steve also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg," he said. He emphasised that before the triple lock was introduced, the value of the state pension had been falling relative to earnings over three decades, and that pensions need to be linked to incomes to prevent retirees from experiencing a sharp drop in living standards.
The debate comes amid rising concerns about the cost of the policy. According to figures cited in the BBC Radio 4 debate, the State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion. The Guardian reported that the Institute for Fiscal Studies estimates the state pension bill will reach £154 billion this year, £16 billion higher than it would have been without the triple lock, and that keeping the policy could cost about £20 billion a year by 2050. The Office for Budget Responsibility has said the triple lock has cost around three times more than initially expected.
Broader calls for reform
Lord Willetts is not the only figure calling for change. The British Chambers of Commerce has urged the government to scrap the triple lock and redirect the savings towards tackling the youth unemployment crisis. The Resolution Foundation, which Lord Willetts now leads, has previously branded the triple lock "a terrible policy" in its analysis. These calls come as the government is required by law to increase the state pension in line with wage growth, but not necessarily under the triple lock formula.
Supporters of the triple lock, however, argue that it is vital for maintaining the value of the state pension, especially for future pensioners. Sir Steve Webb's defence reflects that view, as does the stance of Age UK, which the Guardian noted has said the policy has "rebuilt the value of the state pension" and improved living standards for some of the poorest pensioners.
Not a simple generational fight
Gail Cartmail, a former president of the Trades Union Congress, urged caution against framing the debate as a straightforward conflict between generations. She pointed out that many older people play a significant role in unpaid care, often supporting younger family members, which complicates any simple division between the interests of pensioners and those of families with children.
The triple lock, introduced in 2010 by the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition, guarantees that the State Pension will rise each year by the highest of inflation, average earnings growth, or 2.5%. This mechanism has been credited with increasing the State Pension's value relative to prices and earnings, but it has also been blamed for driving up welfare costs. The debate is expected to continue as the government prepares its next budget, with speculation that the chancellor could address the policy's future.
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Framing: Headline frames a warning about the state pension, highlighting a £900 boost for some but a £1,400 drop for others.
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Lord Willetts called to scrap the DWP triple lock pledge, which dates back to the Tories and Liberal Democrats coalition government in 2010.
Sir Steve Webb said he became pensions minister in 2010.
Sir Steve Webb said prior to the triple lock, the state pension had been falling in value relative to what people earn over 30 years.
Sir Steve Webb argued the state pension needs to be pegged to a proportion of what people are earning.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
Framing: The headline emphasizes that changes to the state pension triple lock are being demanded after a warning about a £1,400 figure.
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The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
He was challenged by Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP.
Sir Steve defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: “That's a choice.”
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial.
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
Framing: Alerts about a possible threat to the triple lock following claims of a pensioner boost — Alert and adversarial
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Silver Voices say triple lock has been undermined in 2025
Pensioners have gained £900 from the State Pension triple lock while benefits for families with children have lost £1,400 in real terms, it is claimed
Former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts said pensioners have benefited by around £900 above inflation over the past 15 years
Lord Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, said it is now time to scrap the triple lock and rebalance the system to support the young
He was speaking during a BBC Radio 4 Today Debate on the future of the triple lock hosted by Nick Robinson
Lord Willetts faced a powerful challenge from another former coalition pensions minister, Sir Steve Webb, who was a Lib-Dem MP and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
The State Pension alone is expected to cost around £146billion in 2026/27, while total spending on pensioner benefits is around £169billion
That would add roughly £500 a year to the full new State Pension
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail warned against turning the issue into a straightforward battle between generations
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
Framing: The headline emphasizes demands for changes to the state pension triple lock, tied to a £1,400 warning.
Facts Included:
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
Framing: The headline emphasizes an alert or warning about the state pension triple lock, issued by a former pensions MP.
Facts Included:
The triple lock was introduced in 2010
Lord David Willetts, president of the Resolution Foundation, argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister and partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries
He added: 'That's a choice' and 'We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things'
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial
Sir Steve said: 'One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg'
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
The latest intervention comes from former Conservative pensions minister Lord David Willetts, now president of the Resolution Foundation, who argued the country should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
Sir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
Sir Steve said Britain spends a smaller proportion of national income on pensions and pensioner benefits than other developed countries, adding: "That's a choice."
He added: "We can afford a decent state pension. We have chosen to prioritise other things."
He also warned that workplace and private pension provision is not delivering enough stability for many people, meaning the State Pension remains crucial. "One leg is falling over. The private pension bit is falling over at the moment. That's why we need a firm leg."
The State Pension alone is forecast to cost about £146 billion in 2026/27, with total spending on pensioner benefits put at around £169 billion.
Former TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing it as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
Framing: questions whether the pensions triple lock is a 'lifeline' or 'simply unaffordable', highlighting a cost-benefit debate — balanced and analytical
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The British Chambers of Commerce has called for the triple lock to be scrapped and the money saved to be put towards tackling the youth unemployment crisis.
The Office for Budget Responsibility said the triple lock has cost around three times more than initial expectations.
The Institute for Fiscal Studies said the state pension bill is expected to hit £154bn this year, and is £16bn higher due to the triple lock.
The IFS estimates keeping the triple lock would cost about £20bn a year by 2050, with high uncertainty between £5bn and £40bn.
The Resolution Foundation branded the triple lock 'a terrible policy'.
The chancellor, John Healey, could address the triple lock in his budget on 28 October.
Supporters say the triple lock is vital for maintaining the value of the state pension, especially for future pensioners.
The government is legally required to increase the state pension in line with wage growth but not the triple lock.
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ClaimThe triple lock was introduced in 2010 and guarantees the State Pension will rise each year by whichever of inflation, average earnings growth, or 2.5% is highest.
ClaimPensioners have gained £900 above inflation since the triple lock was introduced, while benefits for families with children have fallen by £1,400 in real terms.
ClaimLord David Willetts, a former Conservative pensions minister and now president of the Resolution Foundation, argued the UK should move away from the triple lock and refocus support.
ClaimSir Steve Webb, a former Liberal Democrat pensions minister who served in the coalition era and is now a partner at pensions consultancy LCP, defended the triple lock and rejected the idea the UK cannot sustain decent state pensions.
ClaimFormer TUC president Gail Cartmail urged caution about framing the debate as a simple generational fight, pointing out the role many older people play in unpaid care.
ClaimMore than 12 million people received a state pension boost from April 2025, with the full new State Pension rising from £230.25 to £241.30 a week.
ClaimThe British Chambers of Commerce has called for the triple lock to be scrapped and the money saved to be put towards tackling the youth unemployment crisis.